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Miranda731
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Robin in PA
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| After reading that article, I'd boycott them too. |
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ShandaLear
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Lynnk
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Something is this article does not ring right. First of all why would Halloween be such a big time for body lotions? I'ts not like everyone takes this day off anyway. As a nurse we have some holidays that are hard to get off because everyone wants them but also when I used to work as a cashier at a card store it might be frowned upon to take a holiday during high card days but body lotion? Doen't seem right.
Why would a manager in this day and age care what a person worshipped if they didn't bring it into the workplace? Again, everyone knows about discrimination. |
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erika
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Thiat story is odd. Wouldn't a manager go thru training to deal w/situations like this? I like B&B but feel sympathy w/the Wiccan because someone from my faith could be dealt w/similarily.
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DeeD
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| Lynnk wrote: | | First of all why would Halloween be such a big time for body lotions? |
I suspect the retail industry is already gearing up for Christmas in late October, especially since Halloween is kind of seen as the date when you start to see Christmas stuff rolled out literally Nov. 1; so maybe late October is seen as busy from that perspective.
What honestly floors me is not necessarily that people think like this manager did, but that he/she is so stupid as to actually say it to an employee. If I was BBWs, I'd fire the manager just for being so stupid.
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Lynnk
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| DeeD wrote: | | Lynnk wrote: | | First of all why would Halloween be such a big time for body lotions? |
I suspect the retail industry is already gearing up for Christmas in late October, especially since Halloween is kind of seen as the date when you start to see Christmas stuff rolled out literally Nov. 1; so maybe late October is seen as busy from that perspective.
What honestly floors me is not necessarily that people think like this manager did, but that he/she is so stupid as to actually say it to an employee. If I was BBWs, I'd fire the manager just for being so stupid. |
Even if they were getting ready for Christmas it can't be that busy where someone couldn't take time off. They are just putting out lotions right? It's not like it is a store like Walmart or Target etc. Again, when I was a teen I worked at a card store and our biggest time was Christmas- October was not a busy time for us at all. Not even November. Yes we were getting ready but the big push didn't come until late November and December.
I agree with what you said. Any manager who would do this would be nuts and I would thing B& B would immediately take care of this. The story doesn't make sense. |
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DeeD
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:37 am Post subject: |
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| Lynnk wrote: |
Even if they were getting ready for Christmas it can't be that busy where someone couldn't take time off. They are just putting out lotions right? It's not like it is a store like Walmart or Target etc. Again, when I was a teen I worked at a card store and our biggest time was Christmas- October was not a busy time for us at all. Not even November. Yes we were getting ready but the big push didn't come until late November and December. |
Putting out Christmas cards as a teen is a wee bit different than an 8-year manager of a store And I doubt a manager 'just' deals with putting out lotions; there is promotional planning, hiring planning, inventory planning, perhaps promotions that have to be planned with other mall stores, budgeting, etc.
I'm not real familiar with retail, but some industries tend to have a busy season and those seasons may not be what one outside the industry would typically think about. Do you know those in the accounting world frown on vacations after Thanksgiving because there is year end planning, etc., to do before tax prep? Some accounting firms forbid vacations from Dec. to April.
Now you may think it's not that busy, but others disagree. Apparently this superior questioned it; I don't have a problem with her questioning it - I have a problem with her being so stupid as to verbally knock an employee's religion.
It's also possible that the year in question had other critical issues at hand, with regard to success of the company and/or store. Those may factor in as well.
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Miranda731
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| DeeD wrote: | | Lynnk wrote: |
Even if they were getting ready for Christmas it can't be that busy where someone couldn't take time off. They are just putting out lotions right? It's not like it is a store like Walmart or Target etc. Again, when I was a teen I worked at a card store and our biggest time was Christmas- October was not a busy time for us at all. Not even November. Yes we were getting ready but the big push didn't come until late November and December. |
Putting out Christmas cards as a teen is a wee bit different than an 8-year manager of a store And I doubt a manager 'just' deals with putting out lotions; there is promotional planning, hiring planning, inventory planning, perhaps promotions that have to be planned with other mall stores, budgeting, etc.
I'm not real familiar with retail, but some industries tend to have a busy season and those seasons may not be what one outside the industry would typically think about. Do you know those in the accounting world frown on vacations after Thanksgiving because there is year end planning, etc., to do before tax prep? Some accounting firms forbid vacations from Dec. to April.
Now you may think it's not that busy, but others disagree. Apparently this superior questioned it; I don't have a problem with her questioning it - I have a problem with her being so stupid as to verbally knock an employee's religion.
It's also possible that the year in question had other critical issues at hand, with regard to success of the company and/or store. Those may factor in as well. |
Did you read the article? If she had always taken the week off, & her vacation was prearranged, then obviously it was fine with corporate & this new manager just had her own agenda.
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DeeD
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Did you read the article? If she had always taken the week off, & her vacation was prearranged, then obviously it was fine with corporate & this new manager just had her own agenda. |
Yes, I read the article. Just because she had taken off the same week for the past 5 years doesn't mean something hasn't change in the company that year that made the manager question it; and it was a new manager, maybe the prior manager let it go but it was really frowned upon in the company.
Look, I said it was wrong for them to do this based on religious reasons; all I'm saying is that without being in the company and knowing everything that is pertinent to running a BBW store and the company as a whole, questioning the questioning of the timing of her vacation is not our purvue.
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Lynnk
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| DeeD wrote: | | Lynnk wrote: |
Even if they were getting ready for Christmas it can't be that busy where someone couldn't take time off. They are just putting out lotions right? It's not like it is a store like Walmart or Target etc. Again, when I was a teen I worked at a card store and our biggest time was Christmas- October was not a busy time for us at all. Not even November. Yes we were getting ready but the big push didn't come until late November and December. |
Putting out Christmas cards as a teen is a wee bit different than an 8-year manager of a store And I doubt a manager 'just' deals with putting out lotions; there is promotional planning, hiring planning, inventory planning, perhaps promotions that have to be planned with other mall stores, budgeting, etc.
I'm not real familiar with retail, but some industries tend to have a busy season and those seasons may not be what one outside the industry would typically think about. Do you know those in the accounting world frown on vacations after Thanksgiving because there is year end planning, etc., to do before tax prep? Some accounting firms forbid vacations from Dec. to April.
Now you may think it's not that busy, but others disagree. Apparently this superior questioned it; I don't have a problem with her questioning it - I have a problem with her being so stupid as to verbally knock an employee's religion.
It's also possible that the year in question had other critical issues at hand, with regard to success of the company and/or store. Those may factor in as well. |
My card store didn't only sell cards but gift items, candles, Christmas ornaments, calendars----tons of things that would be big sellers at Christmas. They also had to deal with "promotional planning, hiring planning, inventory planning, perhaps promotions that have to be planned with other mall stores, budgeting, etc. "
We got lots of stock in each day especially in prep for Christmas but at the end of October, it was still not so busy we could not take time off. Time off would be encouraged then rather than at Christmas- and we did sell Halloween cards and decorations too. At a lotion place it is pretty much just lotions and soaps and shampoos and air freshners. Also they seem to all be from one manufacturer. How hard could it be to handle that?
I know if there was a manager who had it out for a woman who was a pagan she could strike out at her through something like this but I find it hard to believe the company would support that. I'd just like to see more about the story from another news source perhaps. |
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